tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post1938195681245655452..comments2024-03-23T05:26:31.832-07:00Comments on Those Pre-Pro Whiskey Men!: Ferd Westheimer Spun the Red Top -- And WonJack Sullivanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-48013899725322422782023-10-27T14:59:37.080-07:002023-10-27T14:59:37.080-07:00Rick: My information on the company is in my post...Rick: My information on the company is in my post on Westheimer. Am not able to put a value on the bottle. It would depend a lot on the quality of the label. Keep checking on eBay for similar items. Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-10135784595658463612023-10-27T13:22:34.838-07:002023-10-27T13:22:34.838-07:00Hello, would you have any information on a 4 3/8&q...Hello, would you have any information on a 4 3/8" FERD WESTHEIMER & SONS RED TOP RYE BOTTLERick Firthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-58382747283468615802023-01-05T05:26:47.007-08:002023-01-05T05:26:47.007-08:00Anon: Difficult to put an exact date on it unless...Anon: Difficult to put an exact date on it unless it has tax stamps. It is over 100 years old. Good find.Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-65357953923591910032023-01-05T05:25:25.325-08:002023-01-05T05:25:25.325-08:00Anon: Got it.Anon: Got it.Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-70600013259228332612023-01-04T09:56:23.512-08:002023-01-04T09:56:23.512-08:00I meant red topI meant red topAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-73540611443637077902023-01-04T09:53:53.636-08:002023-01-04T09:53:53.636-08:00I found a green red dot bottle unopened not sure w...I found a green red dot bottle unopened not sure what year it is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-11771596814051478922022-12-29T13:45:04.860-08:002022-12-29T13:45:04.860-08:00There are more grand houses from the Westheimers ,...There are more grand houses from the Westheimers , 20th and Faraon being one. A friend restored the house, interesting chandeliers sculpted bats, could be a gift from the Bacardi family of Cuba. Imagine they traded in rum as well. flownoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17724648242450546894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-6135311019950616942022-11-06T14:58:07.356-08:002022-11-06T14:58:07.356-08:00Thank you Thank you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-55961158263052987582022-10-19T08:04:00.638-07:002022-10-19T08:04:00.638-07:00
Anon: Good question. If this were a question of b...<br />Anon: Good question. If this were a question of bottles I would have an immediate answer for you, but do not have a close acquaintance with a whiskey advertising expert. You might check in with Ferd Meyer at . He is trustworthy and may have an idea. Email: fmeyer@fmgdesign.comJack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-61063164482439282272022-10-18T18:56:50.740-07:002022-10-18T18:56:50.740-07:00How would we get it appraised for insuring? My fav...How would we get it appraised for insuring? My favorite that was given to me as a boy, is a Gund’s Peerless poster of a man on horseback reaching for his rifle as he is surprised by a grizzly bear. “ A Fighting Chance”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-62884956019151254862022-10-17T06:08:19.667-07:002022-10-17T06:08:19.667-07:00Anon.: That Red Top Rye framed poster, indeed all...Anon.: That Red Top Rye framed poster, indeed all saloon signs in good shape, are a hot property on the antiques market. All are at least 100 years old. You have a real find there!Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-48003801360912058692022-10-16T16:54:25.169-07:002022-10-16T16:54:25.169-07:00Our Grandfather had Blondie’s Dew Drop Inn in New ...Our Grandfather had Blondie’s Dew Drop Inn in New Lisbon Wisconsin until prohibition. We have a wonderful RedTopRye poster that was my mom’s favorite of all the framed prints from the saloon. Now I have learned so much about the company history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-52646433590806000412022-05-23T13:17:29.945-07:002022-05-23T13:17:29.945-07:00Thank you JackThank you JackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-81085022286778824712022-05-20T09:13:19.940-07:002022-05-20T09:13:19.940-07:00Anon: I think you have a real find there. My bel...Anon: I think you have a real find there. My belief is that those tops were giveaway items to bars and saloons using Red Top whiskey. The numbers on them indicate some kind of gambling bar game (like bar dice). My guess is that patrons bet on the number that would come to the top when the top stopped spinning. I think I may have seen one a long time ago. Spotting and buying two gives you a "gold star."Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-71304338226604716162022-05-19T15:47:08.392-07:002022-05-19T15:47:08.392-07:00I have come across two small toy tops that are red...I have come across two small toy tops that are red & say red top rye on their top along with numbers 1-8, got them at an estate sale & was hoping to see some history about them, we’re they used on tops of bottles or were they give away items? Do you have any idea?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-2219877051134547392021-04-23T05:51:55.471-07:002021-04-23T05:51:55.471-07:00Mr. Scott: I did know about the Westheimer-Eppste...Mr. Scott: I did know about the Westheimer-Eppstein relationship. But I did not know that Leopold and his wife were your three times great grandparents. A family history to be proud of. Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-74239945319504771842021-04-22T10:55:54.636-07:002021-04-22T10:55:54.636-07:00I think you know, but the connection between Westh...I think you know, but the connection between Westheimer and Eppstein is the daughter of Samuel/niece of Ferd, Henrietta, and Leopold Eppstein. Ferd got Leopold started and Leopold and his son Milton did well distributing Westheimer brands, among others. Leopold and Henrietta are my 3x Great Grandparents. Zachary Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08775977106086191151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-81923691097444981972021-01-16T10:31:04.134-08:002021-01-16T10:31:04.134-08:00Awesome scan of the book! Awesome scan of the book! BackyardBiteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12694019845904625453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-12606268894772401572021-01-16T07:57:41.881-08:002021-01-16T07:57:41.881-08:00Unknown: Great story. Given Ferd's wealth mu...Unknown: Great story. Given Ferd's wealth must be a nice house. Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-45761030501033984462021-01-10T16:50:58.670-08:002021-01-10T16:50:58.670-08:00I have the original house stone or marking stone w...I have the original house stone or marking stone with Ferdinand westheimer's name engraved in it. It used to sit out in front of the house denoting who lived there.I used to put him out every year for Halloween with an iron fence around him and light him up with a skeleton everybody loved to see Ferdinand... olighthousecafe@aol.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05920501005165492350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-25310601486099405022020-10-04T06:27:45.512-07:002020-10-04T06:27:45.512-07:00Deadra Bourke: Without seeing it I would date you...Deadra Bourke: Without seeing it I would date your bottle at more than 100 years old and considered antique. To go further would require seeing it. Email image to jack.sullivan9@verizon.net.Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-61043687412894698342020-10-02T08:57:35.545-07:002020-10-02T08:57:35.545-07:00I am trying to date an Old Red Top Pure Rye bottle...I am trying to date an Old Red Top Pure Rye bottle. It is a clear glass one with Red Top Pure Rye written on the front. The neck of the bottle is decorative but it has no other identifying marks. I do have a picture of the bottle but I'm not sure how to post it here.<br />Deadra Bourkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12275445804022506339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-4175843145107293942020-05-19T04:39:02.077-07:002020-05-19T04:39:02.077-07:00Unknown: Thanks for your story. Having had a pri...Unknown: Thanks for your story. Having had a prize whiskey broken by my wife while cleaning, I know your pain. Templeton Rye is my son's favorite imbibe. Jack Sullivanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01499431800088809848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-53918323963942306832020-05-18T13:13:49.181-07:002020-05-18T13:13:49.181-07:00The only reason I ever heard of Red top rye was I ...The only reason I ever heard of Red top rye was I found a clear bottle after a heavy rain. My house was built in 1898 and I do believe the occupants throughout the years liked to imbibe because the hill that overlooks the Missouri river is littered with all sorts of things including beer cans and bottles. They range from as old as the house to modern.I thought it to be one of the neatest bottles I had found with the name and the top embossed in the glass. Sadly while cleaning I knocked it over and as brittle as it was it broke into a hundred pieces. I wish I had never displayed it like that and kept it more secure. Don't think I'll ever find another one. Sure I find lots of bottles everytime I go down that hill but nothing as special as that! I often wonder about its taste I would've loved to taste it. Just wondering if you still have the recipe in the family and if you ever considered reviving the brand.There is a resurgence in old brands like Tempelton rye a supposed favorite of Al Capone. If anyone has had the pleasure of tasting it I'd love to hear your description of it.Thanks for this story it really helped to learn the history of the man behind the brand.It's kind of neat because I used to live in Missouri and we went through St.Joe alot and now I live in Nebraska just a stones throw from the river.I can just imagine how that bottle ended up on my hill and I presume whoever consumed it was having a good time. If you do ever distill a batch I'll be in line to get some. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17430006035549376556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6657913448535983609.post-66315079795853340432020-01-14T06:17:43.985-08:002020-01-14T06:17:43.985-08:00Dear Ann, my name is Doug . and I dug up one of yo...Dear Ann, my name is Doug . and I dug up one of your grandfather's miniature sample bottles. Red top rye 4 and 1/2 in tall. I use it as decoration in my home and a conversation piece. Looking up the history it was amazing that 40 years ago I threw it in the box after I dug it up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04417852983214426109noreply@blogger.com